{"id":2569,"date":"2020-03-21T17:50:46","date_gmt":"2020-03-21T21:50:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/?p=2569"},"modified":"2021-07-08T12:44:27","modified_gmt":"2021-07-08T16:44:27","slug":"hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/","title":{"rendered":"Hold Chopsticks like a Pen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Countless videos and blogs on &#8220;how to use chopsticks&#8221; recommend that users learn to hold the top chopstick like a pen. That is a sound advice. We teach the same in <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/learn-to-twirl-marcosticks\/\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/how-to-use-chopsticks\/\">Learn to Use Chopsticks<\/a> as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But what does &#8220;hold it like a pen&#8221; mean, exactly? Does everyone actually know the right way to hold a pen? What if there are as many alternative pen grips, as there are <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/ten-thousand-ways\/\">alternative chopstick grips<\/a>? And, is there a &#8220;standard pen grip&#8221;, like there is a <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-standard-grip\/\">standard chopstick grip<\/a>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"299\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale-1024x299.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Featured banner - Standard Grip - user19 - comparing pen grip to chopstick grip - lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149\" class=\"wp-image-2571\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale-1024x299.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale-300x87.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale-768x224.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale-1536x448.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grip_lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scale.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; Standard Grip*<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_68 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-69ea43da63d10\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 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correlated?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Wisdom_from_chopstick_wrappers\" title=\"Wisdom from chopstick wrappers\">Wisdom from chopstick wrappers<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Who_said_this_is_the_right_pen_grip\" title=\"Who said this is the right pen grip?\">Who said this is the right pen grip?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Alternative_ways_to_grip_a_pen\" title=\"Alternative ways to grip a pen\">Alternative ways to grip a pen<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Standard_Grip_users\" title=\"Standard Grip users\">Standard Grip users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Two_traditional_pen_grips\" title=\"Two traditional pen grips\">Two traditional pen grips<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#The_Modern_Grip\" title=\"The Modern Grip\">The Modern Grip<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Four_common_pen_grips\" title=\"Four common pen grips\">Four common pen grips<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Idling_Thumb_and_its_child_grips\" title=\"Idling Thumb and its child grips\">Idling Thumb and its child grips<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Idling_Thumb_users\" title=\"Idling Thumb users\">Idling Thumb users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Chicken_Claws_users\" title=\"Chicken Claws users\">Chicken Claws users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Modern_Grip_vs_Caswellian_Grip\" title=\"Modern Grip vs Caswellian Grip\">Modern Grip vs Caswellian Grip<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-13\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Dangling_Stick_users\" title=\"Dangling Stick users\">Dangling Stick users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-14\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Fork_grips_vs_Chopstick_grips\" title=\"Fork grips vs. Chopstick grips\">Fork grips vs. Chopstick grips<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-15\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Scissorhand_Grip_users\" title=\"Scissorhand Grip users\">Scissorhand Grip users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-16\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Count-to-4_users\" title=\"Count-to-4 users\">Count-to-4 users<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-17\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#Conclusions\" title=\"Conclusions\">Conclusions<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-18\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#2021-03_updates_penholds\" title=\"2021-03 updates: penholds\">2021-03 updates: penholds<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-19\" href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/zh\/hold-chopsticks-like-a-pen\/#2021-05_updates_Lateral_chopstick_grips\" title=\"2021-05 updates: Lateral chopstick grips\">2021-05 updates: Lateral chopstick grips<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Are_pen_grips_and_chopstick_grips_correlated\"><\/span>Are pen grips and chopstick grips correlated?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>If you learned a non-standard pen grip as a child, will that influence the type of chopstick grip you adopt later?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We don&#8217;t have answers to this question, nor to some of the questions stated earlier. You won&#8217;t find answers elsewhere either. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/history-of-chopstick-research\/\">Researchers have not explored<\/a> these questions. They haven&#8217;t even come to reckon with the reality of the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/ten-thousand-ways\/\">richness of chopstick grip types<\/a>, yet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled-1024x425.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Standard Grip - Modeluser - upper side view - IMG_7391_IMG_8515\" class=\"wp-image-2579\" width=\"512\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled-1024x425.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled-300x125.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled-768x319.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled-1536x638.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-upper-side-view-IMG_7391_IMG_8515_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-standard-grip\/\">Standard Grip<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Here we attempt to collect and analyze pictures of folks using pens and chopsticks. It is just a starting point. We collect pictures from folks where the same person uses a pen and then chopsticks. By acquiring and analyzing these pictures, we can start to look for patterns including correlations. We will thus establish some basic facts for further research.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Wisdom_from_chopstick_wrappers\"><\/span>Wisdom from chopstick wrappers<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Instructions on how-to-use-chopsticks abound. You can find them on most chopstick wrappers for disposable chopsticks. As we have recounted in <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-vulcan-grip\/\">Vulcan Grip<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-righthand-rule-grip\/\">Righthand Rule<\/a>, these instructions are accompanied by horribly-inaccurate drawings. But in many cases, succinct written instructions include the phrase \u201c<strong>hold it as you hold a pencil<\/strong>\u201d. We applaud this recommendation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks-1024x579.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - hold it like a pen - cropped - FromCorridorVid - chopsticks\" class=\"wp-image-2577\" width=\"512\" height=\"290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks-1024x579.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks-768x434.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Chopstick-wrapper-instruction-hold-it-like-a-pen-cropped_FromCorridorVid-chopsticks.jpg 1114w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Chopstick wrapper instructions: hold it as you hold a pencil<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>We like it so much that we have incorporated it into our article on <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/how-to-use-chopsticks\/\">Learn to Use Chopsticks<\/a>. Below is one of the video clips showing the first step of the learning process. Step 1 is to hold the top chopstick like a pen. The end result is a three-finger maneuver that we call the &#8220;tripod hold&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Learning-the-standard-grip-finger-posture-1a-top-chopstick-placement-IMG_7435-640x353-10fps.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Learning-the-standard-grip-finger-posture-1a-top-chopstick-placement-IMG_7435-640x353-10fps.gif\" alt=\"Chopsticks - Learning the standard grip finger posture 1a - top chopstick placement - IMG_7435 640x353 10fps\" class=\"wp-image-905\" width=\"480\" height=\"265\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Initial placement of top chopstick, as if holding a pen using the tripod hold<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Who_said_this_is_the_right_pen_grip\"><\/span>Who said this is the right pen grip?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Unlike the sad, unresearched field of chopstick grips, the best way to hold a pen has been well-documented online, as well as in books. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lwtears.com\/blog\/how-to-hold-pencil-grip\">This website<\/a>, for instance, documents both the <strong>tripod grip<\/strong> and the <strong>quadropod grip<\/strong> for holding a pen. The same tripod grip is illustrated in the <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/railroadfistorca00casw\/page\/16\/mode\/2up\">1923 treatise<\/a> on penmanship by Caswell, shown below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"Tripod hold on a pen - The railroad fist or the Caswell system - Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia\" class=\"wp-image-2171\" width=\"512\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-1536x630.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia.jpg 1941w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong> (left) and <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong> (right) (<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/railroadfistorca00casw\/page\/16\/mode\/2up\">Source<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The book showed two closely-related variants of the tripod grip. For reasons that will be explained later, we will call the above left posture the <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong>, and the above right posture the <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It turns out that the same tripod grip is exactly how the top chopstick is manipulated by the same three fingers: the thumb, the index finger and the middle finger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"311\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled-1024x311.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Featured banner - Standard Grip - user19 - comparing pen grip to chopstick grip - lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111\" class=\"wp-image-2584\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled-1024x311.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled-300x91.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled-768x233.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled-1536x467.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-user19-side-view-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_154111_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing Spencerian pen grip to <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-standard-grip\/\">Standard chopstick grip<\/a> *<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We call the alternating motion of three fingers moving the top chopstick between the closed posture and the open posture, the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/planetary-gears\/\">planetary<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/learn-to-twirl-marcosticks\/\"> gear train twirling<\/a> of chopsticks. Following video illustrates this alternating motion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Twirling-top-chopstick-Snapping-air-with-max-wide-open-angle-Bottom-chopstick-anchored-IMG_3620.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Twirling-top-chopstick-Snapping-air-with-max-wide-open-angle-Bottom-chopstick-anchored-IMG_3620.gif\" alt=\"Chopsticks Marcosticks - Twirling the top chopstick - Snapping air with max wide-open angle, while the bottom chopstick is held immobile by the left hand - IMG_3620\" class=\"wp-image-862\" width=\"455\" height=\"228\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Twirling the top chopstick using planetary gear train principles<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Alternative_ways_to_grip_a_pen\"><\/span>Alternative ways to grip a pen<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There are as many ways to grip a pen as there are for holding chopsticks. Two pictures below show the same person using two different pen grips. On the left is an alternative grip where the index finger is over-flattened, to the point where the finger hurts. This grip was acquired in childhood. On the right is a tripod grip with a curved index finger that this person adopted in adulthood.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"362\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled-1024x362.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Alternative pen grip - Flattened Index Finger vs Tripod Grip - user19 - upper rear view - lesserweevils_154155_161308\" class=\"wp-image-2588\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled-1024x362.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled-300x106.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled-768x271.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled-1536x542.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grip-Flattened-Index-Finger-vs-Tripod-Grip-user19-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155_161308_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Alternative pen grip with flattened index finger (left) vs. with curved index finger (right) *<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For reasons that will be explained later, we will call the above left posture the <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong>. The above right posture is another example of the <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Two more common pen grips are shown below. They are very similar. Both grips forgo the use of the tip segment of the thumb. Only the base of the thumb is used to grip the pen. The person on the left wields chopsticks with the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-idling-thumb-grip\/\">Idling Thumb<\/a> grip. The person on the right wields chopsticks with the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-scissorhand-grip\/\">Scissorhand<\/a> grip. These resemble the pen grip that some people call the lateral tripod grip. See these research <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/figure\/Four-mature-grasp-patterns-Dynamic-tripod-dynamic-quadrupod-lateral-tripod-and_fig1_232736899\">drawings<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/figure\/Four-grasp-patterns-A-Dynamic-tripod-B-dynamic-quadrupod-C-lateral-tripod-and_fig4_235714740\">pictures<\/a>. We will call it the <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled-1024x519.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Alternative pen grips - Idling Thumb Modeluser - Scissorhand Grip User12 - mirrored - IMG_8533-IMG_8534\" class=\"wp-image-2592\" width=\"512\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled-1024x519.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled-300x152.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled-768x389.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled-1536x779.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Alternative-pen-grips-Idling-Thumb-Modeluser-n-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-IMG_8533-IMG_8534_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> &#8211; pen grips of chopstick users: Idling Thumb (left) and Scissorhand (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>It is worth pointing out that <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-idling-thumb-grip\/\">Idling Thumb<\/a> is named precisely after the tip of the thumb that eschews any responsibilities in maneuvering the top chopstick. This characteristic of chopstick wielding appears to be correlated to how the same person wields a pen (above left). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Similarly, <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-scissorhand-grip\/\">Scissorhand<\/a> inherits the same idling thumb, because it is derived indirectly from Idling Thumb. This relationship is visually described in the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/family-tree-of-alternative-grips\/\">family tree of alternative grips<\/a>. Again, this disuse of the thumb appears to translate to the pen grip as well (above right).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All four variants mentioned so far are tripod grips. But they do not all operate using the same finger dynamics. Only the Spencerian and the Caswellian variants enable a writer to freely twirl the pen using the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/planetary-gears\/\">planetary gear train principle<\/a>. The Modern and the Lateral variants lock the pen in a firm grip, allowing it very little freedom of movement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Standard_Grip_users\"><\/span>Standard Grip users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In general, people who twirl chopsticks using <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-standard-grip\/\">Standard Grip<\/a> also hold pens using the tripod grip. More specifically they tend to adopt either the Spencerian variant, or the Caswellian variant. This is an empirical observation based on anecdotal evidences, and is subject to revisions as we collect more data. Following pictures illustrate various views of the same Standard Grip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"212\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled-1024x212.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks-Banner - Views-Standard Grip - Modeluser - using marcosticks - IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523\" class=\"wp-image-2597\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled-1024x212.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled-300x62.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled-768x159.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled-1536x318.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-marcosticks-IMG_8518-to-IMG_8523_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Different views of the standard chopstick grip<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Following are views of the same user holding a pen using the Caswellian Grip. Take note of overall similarities between the chopstick grip (above) and the pen grip (below).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"214\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1024x214.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks-Banner - Views-Standard Grip - Modeluser - using a pen - IMG_7391-to-7404-n-8618\" class=\"wp-image-2669\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1024x214.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-300x63.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-768x161.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1536x321.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Different views of the tripod pen grip &#8211; Caswellian variant<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>That being said, there are some minor differences between the chopstick grip and the pen grip. For instance, in holding a pen, the thumb does not need to extended completely flat, in a Caswellian thumb pose, as described in details in <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/caswellian-thumb-and-chopsticks\/\">Caswellian Thumb and Chopsticks<\/a>, and in  <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-count-to-4-grip\/\">Count-to-4<\/a>. This is because there isn&#8217;t a second pen for the thumb to secure, as is the case with chopsticks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pictures below illustrate how a different Standard Grip user holds a chopstick like a pen (left), versus how the same user wield chopsticks (center and right). The thumb in the pen grip (left) is positioned opposite the index finger. This is slightly different from the standard chopstick grip (center and right), where the thumb is positioned further aft.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"275\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled-1024x275.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Standard Grip - User20 - upper side view - IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494\" class=\"wp-image-2599\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled-1024x275.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled-300x80.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled-768x206.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled-1536x412.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks_Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Standard-Grip-User20-upper-side-view-IMG_8487-IMG_8493-IMG_8494_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong> vs. <strong>Standard Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are similar views of yet another Standard Grip user. The picture on the left shows the Spencerian Grip. Note the slight change in the position of the thumb, with respect to the positions of the index finger and the middle finger. The thumb is located further aft, compared to these other fingers. The pen grip of this user is visually closer to the standard chopstick grip, except that the thumb is bent, instead of being extended flat, in a Caswellian thumb pose.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"190\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled-1024x190.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Featured banner - Standard Grip - user19 - comparing pen grip to chopstick grips - open n closed - lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149\" class=\"wp-image-2602\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled-1024x190.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled-300x56.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled-768x143.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled-1536x285.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Featured-banner-Standard-Grip-user19-comparing-pen-grip-to-chopstick-grips-open-n-closed-lesserweevils_JvRk8DY_155149_scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong> vs. <strong>Standard Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Two_traditional_pen_grips\"><\/span>Two traditional pen grips<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Two variants of traditional pen grips exist. They were popular for writing cursives using fountain pens. They are both examples of tripod grips. The <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/railroadfistorca00casw\/page\/16\/mode\/2up\">Caswell treatise<\/a> shows both variants. Unlike some variants such as the Modern Grip, these traditional grips demand that writers rest the rear of the pen on the base of the index finger. This is exactly how the Standard Grip works as well, when it comes to wielding chopsticks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"Tripod hold on a pen - The railroad fist or the Caswell system - Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia - annotated base of index finger where the pen rests\" class=\"wp-image-2677\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen-1536x630.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-rear-of-pen.jpg 1941w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Caswellian and Spencerian have the pen rest on the base of the index finger<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>These two variants are slightly different. The variant on the left has writers turn their wrist, with the palm facing down. This allows the index finger to exert downward forces on the pen. The variant on the right has the hand turned such that it can sit on the flesh of the pinky. These distinctions are not important to chopstick wielding. For the sake of this article, we ignore these differences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instead, we want to use these two variants to show two ways the thumb may be positioned. We have marked out the contour of the thumb in these two pictures (below), to highlight their differences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"Tripod hold on a pen - The railroad fist or the Caswell system - Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia - thumb annotated\" class=\"wp-image-2605\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb-1536x630.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Tripod-hold-on-a-pen-The-railroad-fist-or-the-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-annotated-thumb.jpg 1941w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Traditional way to hold a pen, the tripod grip, with two different ways to position the thumb<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For the sake of our discussion, we term the first variant the <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong>, shown below. The purlicue is stretched taut, by the base of the index finger and the base of the thumb. This allows the tip of the thumb to reach forward and meet with the tip of the index finger. We name it after the author of the book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Variants of tripod pen grip - 1 Caswellian grip - from Caswell system - Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618\" class=\"wp-image-2674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618-1536x630.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-1-modern-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia-IMG_8618.jpg 1941w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Variant 1 of the traditional pen grip &#8211; the <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We term the second variant the <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong>, shown below right. This is where the base of the thumb raises up, bringing itself closer to the base of the index finger. The tip of the thumb is raised in the process, distancing itself from the tip of the index finger. A different way of raising the tip of the thumb is shown below left. Instead of raising the base of the thumb, the first joint of the thumb is bent instead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149-1024x420.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Variants of tripod pen grip - 2 Spencerian grip - from Caswell system - Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149\" class=\"wp-image-2607\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149-1024x420.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149-768x315.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149-1536x630.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Variants-of-tripod-pen-grip-2-Spencerian-grip-from-Caswell-system-Railroadfistorca00casw_0022_Wikimedia_lesserweevils_155149.jpg 1941w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Variant 2 of the tripod pen grip &#8211; the <strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter whether one uses Caswellian Grip or Spencerian Grip. The both work well. People usually adopt whichever grip better accommodate their anatomy and habit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For the curious who want to dive further into the rabbit hole, see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fountainpennetwork.com\/forum\/topic\/240309-how-to-hold-a-straight-pen-for-copperplate\/?p=2605394\">this<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jasna.org\/persuasions\/on-line\/vol30no1\/images\/hurford-spencerian.jpg\">this<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/09\/83\/cf\/0983cff919303b15c765793d388aa397.jpg\">this<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/thegraphicsfairy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/blogger\/_CarNcodpCMA\/S2SJSHWGp3I\/AAAAAAAAF-w\/TNACKKxK5P0\/s1600\/spencepenhandsgfairy002b.jpg\">this<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/articles\/improve-your-cursive-handwriting\/\">this<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/howardempowered.blogspot.com\/2015\/09\/alans-pen-grip.html\">this<\/a> on pen grips.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_Modern_Grip\"><\/span>The Modern Grip<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It seems that schools now teach a different pen grip. We call this the <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong>. It is still a tripod grip, in that the thumb, the index finger and the middle finger securely hold the pen. It is generally known as the <strong>Dynamic Tripod<\/strong> penhold. But this grip has the pen rest on the purlicue, the web between the index finger and the thumb. This seemingly small detail has grave implications for finger dynamics. Firstly, the planetary gear-like rolling of the pen cannot be done. Secondly, this grip invites writers to over-flatten the index finger, as shown below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Single-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-matching-pen-grip-upper-side-view-IMG_7412-annotated-1024x791.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Single - Chicken Claws grip - Modeluser-matching pen grip - upper side view - IMG_7412 - annotated\" class=\"wp-image-2678\" width=\"300\" height=\"230\"\/><figcaption><strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> rests the pen on the purlicue<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>It is undesirable for the index finger to over-extend, shown again below. This reduces the flexibility of finger movements. It thus negatively affects writing dexterity. The same is true of chopstick twirling. Never over-extend the index finger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Standard-Grip-user19-matching-pen-grip-Previous-flattened-index-finger-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Standard-Grip-user19-matching-pen-grip-Previous-flattened-index-finger-upper-rear-view-lesserweevils_154155-scaled-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Standard Grip - user19 - matching pen grip - flattened index finger - upper rear view-lesserweevils_154155-scaled\" class=\"wp-image-2612\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Over-flattening of <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Four_common_pen_grips\"><\/span>Four common pen grips<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a summary of the four common pen grips we have discussed so far. They are shown below. From left to right, we have Spencerian Grip, Caswellian Grip, Modern Grip, and Lateral Grip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"237\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1-1024x237.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Pen grip types - Four common pen grips - Spencerian Grip (left), Caswellian Grip (mid left), Modern Grip (mid right) and Lateral Grip (right) - IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533\" class=\"wp-image-2671\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1-1024x237.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1-300x69.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1-768x178.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1-1536x356.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Pen-grip-types-Four-common-pen-grips-IMG_8618_155149_IMG_7412_IMG_8533-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><strong>Spencerian Grip<\/strong> (left), <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong> (mid left), <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> (mid right) and <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It seems reasonable to consider Modern Grip as a cross between Caswellian Grip and Lateral Grip. After all, Modern Grip shares the thumb posture of Caswellian Grip, and the pen-resting-on-purlicue posture of Lateral Grip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Idling_Thumb_and_its_child_grips\"><\/span>Idling Thumb and its child grips<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The rest of this article will be dedicated to examination of correlation or lack thereof, between pen grips and <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/family-tree-of-alternative-grips\/\">chopstick grips<\/a>. We will focus on chopstick grips that derive from the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-idling-thumb-grip\/\">Idling Thumb<\/a> grip, for this discussion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/family-tree-of-alternative-grips\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD-750x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Child grips of Idling Thumb - branches within the family tree - FRD\" class=\"wp-image-2616\" width=\"375\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD-750x1024.jpg 750w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD-220x300.jpg 220w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD-768x1049.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD-1125x1536.jpg 1125w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Child-grips-of-Idling-Thumb-branches-within-the-family-tree-FRD.jpg 1252w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 375px) 100vw, 375px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Idling Thumb&#8217;s child grips<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Idling_Thumb_users\"><\/span>Idling Thumb users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The picture below to the left shows one <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-idling-thumb-grip\/\">Idling Thumb<\/a> user holding a pen using the Lateral Grip. Notice similarities between pen grip and chopstick grip. In both cases, the thumb loiters. The tip of the thumb is not used to manipulate the pen nor the top chopstick. Also note how the index finger is over-extended. This reduces overall dexterity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"267\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1024x267.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Idling Thumb grip - Modelusesr - upper side view - IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520\" class=\"wp-image-2618\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1024x267.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1-300x78.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1-768x200.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1536x400.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-upper-side-view-IMG_7460-IMG_8519-IMG_8520-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-idling-thumb-grip\/\">Idling Thumb<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>As we repeatedly underscore in our articles on various alternative grips, users do not always have just one chopstick grip in their repertoire. A user may switch to different variants of a grip, or to a related grip, as situations call for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Following pictures show that an Idling Thumb user adopted two different pen grips only minutes apart, when prompted to demonstrate pen-holding grips using a chopstick. The user showed the <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> at first (left). Later the user subconsciously switched back to their usual <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> (center).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"288\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1024x288.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Idling Thumb grip - Modelusesr - two pen grip variants - upper side view - IMG_8514 to IMG_8520\" class=\"wp-image-2620\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1024x288.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1-300x84.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1-768x216.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1-1536x431.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-two-pen-grip-variants-upper-side-view-IMG_8514-to-IMG_8520-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>An <strong>Idling Thumb<\/strong> user switches between two pen grip types &#8211; <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> and <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Chicken_Claws_users\"><\/span>Chicken Claws users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Following picture (left) captures how a <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-chicken-claws-grip\/\">Chicken Claws<\/a> chopstick user holds a pen using the Modern Grip. We expected that the user would use the <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> for the pen, as Chicken Claws derives from Idling Thumb. But in reality, this user wields the <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> instead. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"310\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1-1024x310.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Chicken Claws grip - Modeluser - pen vs marcosticks - upper front view - IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885\" class=\"wp-image-2625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1-1024x310.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1-300x91.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1-768x232.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1-1536x464.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-front-view-IMG_7424_IMG_6882_IMG_6885-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-chicken-claws-grip\/\">Chicken Claws<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We suspect that the discrepancy between pen grip and chopstick grip is influenced by childhood exposure to the <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> at school.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Modern_Grip_vs_Caswellian_Grip\"><\/span>Modern Grip vs Caswellian Grip<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Now seems like a good time to compare Modern Grip to Caswellian Grip. Following are views of the same user holding a pen using the Modern Grip. In these views, the index finger is shown to be over-extended past the flat posture. The index finger actually curves in as the user applies pressure to hold the pen. As discussed earlier, Modern Grip rests the pen on the purlicue. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"196\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1-1024x196.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Banner - Views - Chicken Claws grip - Modeluser - using a pen - IMG_7412 to IMG_7424 and IMG_8535\" class=\"wp-image-2636\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1-1024x196.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1-300x57.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1-768x147.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1-1536x293.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Chicken-Claws-grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7412-to-IMG_7424-and-IMG_8535-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Different views of <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong>, a tripod pen grip<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Compare above pictures to following views of a different user holding a pen using the Caswellian Grip. In all views, the index finger is shown to retain a convex shape. This allows the user to exercise fine muscle controls, resulting in enhanced dexterity. In fact, both tip and center segments of the index finger hug the pen. It is impossible for the writer to over-extend the index finger using this grip. By hugging the pen, the index finger turns the pen into an extension of itself. This is why the rear end of the pen naturally rests on the base of the index finger. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"214\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1024x214.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks-Banner - Views-Standard Grip - Modeluser - using a pen - IMG_7391-to-7404-n-8618\" class=\"wp-image-2669\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1024x214.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-300x63.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-768x161.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1-1536x321.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Banner-Views-Standard-Grip-Modeluser-using-a-pen-IMG_7391-to-7404-n-IMG_8618-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Different views of <strong>Caswellian Grip<\/strong>, a tripod pen grip<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Dangling_Stick_users\"><\/span>Dangling Stick users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Pictures below illustrate how a <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dangling-stick-grip\/\">Dangling Stick<\/a> user holds a chopstick like a pen (left), versus how the same user wields chopsticks (center and right). Just like the case with Chicken Claws discussed earlier, we expected the Dangling Stick user to have adopted the Lateral Grip. But instead we find that this user has also adopted the Modern Grip. In this case, no over-extension is observed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"287\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1-1024x287.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Dangling Stick grip - User18 - pen vs marcosticks - upper side n side views - IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507\" class=\"wp-image-2640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1-1024x287.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1-300x84.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1-768x215.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1-1536x430.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User18-pen-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-n-side-views-IMG_8498_IMG_8506_IMG_8507-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Modern Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dangling-stick-grip\/\">Dangling Stick<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Fork_grips_vs_Chopstick_grips\"><\/span>Fork grips vs. Chopstick grips<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here we take a detour to explore how people grip forks. Shown below to the left and in the center are views of a person holding a fork. This is very similar to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lwtears.com\/blog\/how-to-hold-pencil-grip\">Quadropod<\/a><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lwtears.com\/blog\/how-to-hold-pencil-grip\"> <\/a><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lwtears.com\/blog\/how-to-hold-pencil-grip\">Grip<\/a> mentioned earlier, for pen grips. This same person wields the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dangling-stick-grip\/\">Dangling Stick<\/a> when it comes to using chopsticks. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User9-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-view-IMG_8435-IMG_8439-IMG_7855-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dangling-Stick-grip-User9-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-side-view-IMG_8435-IMG_8439-IMG_7855-scaled-1-1024x345.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Dangling Stick grip - User9 - fork vs marcosticks - upper side view - IMG_8435-IMG_8439-IMG_7855\" class=\"wp-image-2642\" width=\"600\" height=\"190\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing fork grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Quadropod Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dangling-stick-grip\/\">Dangling Stick<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, some people do use the same grip for fork and for chopsticks. Shown below are views of a person applying to forks (left) the same <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dino-claws-grip\/\">Dino Claws<\/a> grip they use for chopsticks (right). This fork\/pen grip looks like a cross between Quadropod Grip and Lateral Grip. We&#8217;ll call it the <strong>Lateral Quadropod Grip<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1024x369.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Dino Claws grip - User11 - fork vs marcosticks - side view - IMG_8433_IMG_3737\" class=\"wp-image-2644\" width=\"512\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1024x369.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1-300x108.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1-768x277.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1536x554.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8433_IMG_3737-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing fork grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Lateral Quadropod Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-dino-claws-grip\/\">Dino Claws<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Shown below are another perspective showing the same fork grip and chopstick grip. The index finger is clearly not used. Perhaps calling it &#8220;quad&#8221; anything is not quite correct, after all. There are only three contact points in use: the thumb base, the middle finger, and the ring finger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1024x395.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Dino Claws grip - User11 - fork vs marcosticks - upper rear view - IMG_8432_IMG_3737\" class=\"wp-image-2645\" width=\"512\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1024x395.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1-300x116.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1-768x296.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1-1536x593.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Dino-Claws-grip-User11-fork-vs-marcosticks-upper-rear-view-IMG_8432_IMG_3737-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Index finger is unused for gripping fork and chopsticks<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Scissorhand_Grip_users\"><\/span>Scissorhand Grip users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is another example where correlation holds between pen grips and chopstick grips. Shown below to the left is a picture of a person holding a pen using a variant of the Lateral Grip. The thumb has been moved towards the tip of the pen, compared to the prototypical Lateral Grip posture. The same person wields chopsticks with the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-scissorhand-grip\/\">Scissorhand Grip<\/a>. Both pen grip and chopstick grip share the same disuse of the thumb tip, as well as the same flattened index finger, for applying force.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"423\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1-1024x423.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Scissorhand Grip - User12-mirrored - pen vs marcosticks - side view - IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512\" class=\"wp-image-2647\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1-1024x423.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1-300x124.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1-768x317.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1-1536x635.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8534_IMG_8511_IMG_8512-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211;<strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-scissorhand-grip\/\">Scissorhand Grip<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>When prompted to hold a chopstick as if holding a pen, this person takes up the same pen grip (below left). The three pictures to the right show the same person forcing open the top chopstick, using a flattened index finger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"322\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1-1024x322.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Scissorhand Grip - User12-mirrored - stick as pen vs marcosticks - side view - IMG_8508-IMG_8510 to IMG_8512\" class=\"wp-image-2654\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1-1024x322.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1-300x94.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1-768x242.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1-1536x483.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Scissorhand-Grip-User12-mirrored-stick-as-pen-vs-marcosticks-side-view-IMG_8508-IMG_8510-to-IMG_8512-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Lateral Grip<\/strong> vs. <strong>Scissorhand Grip<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This concludes our discussion on grips that derive from Idling Thumb. Now we tie a few lose ends before we end this article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Count-to-4_users\"><\/span>Count-to-4 users<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a rarer pen grip. It is yet another example confirming the correlation between pen grips and chopstick grips. The same person wields a pen (below left) using exactly the same finger posture and dynamics as they wield chopsticks (below center and right). We call this chopstick grip the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-count-to-4-grip\/\">Count-to-4<\/a> grip. It has a Vulcan variant called <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-count-to-kehkuh-grip\/\">Count-to-kehkuh<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"221\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1-1024x221.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Pen n chopsticks - Comparison - Count-to-4 Grip - User17 - pen vs marcosticks-u_sudakifiss\" class=\"wp-image-2656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1-1024x221.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1-300x65.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1-768x166.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1-1536x332.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Comparison-Count-to-4-Grip-User17-pen-vs-marcosticks-u_sudakifiss-scaled-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Comparing pen grip to chopstick grip &#8211; <strong>Bipod Caswellian Grip<\/strong> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-count-to-4-grip\/\">Count-to-4 Grip<\/a> *<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Unlike Scissorhand, Dino Claws, Dangling Stick and Chicken Claws discussed earlier, this grip is unrelated to Idling Thumb. Count-to-4 is a direct descendant of Standard Grip. And this direct relationship shows on the corresponding pen grip as well. The only difference between this pen grip and Caswellian Grip is the disuse of the index finger. We call it the <strong>Bipod Caswellian Grip<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Conclusions\"><\/span>Conclusions<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>At this point, we can&#8217;t draw definitive conclusions about anything. We can only say that there appears to be a correlation between pen grips and chopstick grips. Wherever the correlation fails to hold, it seems that the Modern Grip taught in schools influences how a user wields a pen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More data need to be collected. We&#8217;ll report back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"2021-03_updates_penholds\"><\/span>2021-03 updates: penholds<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>By chance we found a great source of both textual information and visual information on pen holding grips. It is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/36190927_Pencil_grip_A_descriptive_model_and_four_empirical_studies\">Selin, Ann-Sofie. (2003). Pencil grip. A descriptive model and four empirical studies<\/a>. This paper\/book is 127 pages in total. The research analyzed more than 500 observed grips, and classified these based on various factors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-1-used-with-permission-w-border.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-1-used-with-permission-w-border.png\" alt=\"Pencil grip by Selin 2003. Drawing on page 59 by Sofia Flinck - common pen grip types - FIG 10 part 1 - used with permission\" class=\"wp-image-4540\" width=\"512\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-1-used-with-permission-w-border.png 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-1-used-with-permission-w-border-300x246.png 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-1-used-with-permission-w-border-768x630.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>3 of 4 descriptors used in classification. Selin 2003. Drawings by Sofia Flinck<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Among many findings described in the book was the cold fact that only 1% of observed grips showed a thumb pose as deployed in the Caswellian grip (aka flattened or hyperextended thumb MP joint). The Caswellian grip is no longer commonly observed in the modern world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some of these insights have been incorporated into the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/caswellian-thumb-and-chopsticks\/\">Caswellian Thumb and Chopsticks<\/a> article. This article will in time be revised based on this information as well. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-2-used-with-permission-w-border.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pencil-grip-by-Selin-2003.-Drawing-on-page-59-by-Sofia-Flinck-common-pen-grip-types-FIG-10-part-2-used-with-permission-w-border.png\" alt=\"Pencil grip by Selin 2003. 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That lead us to Dr. Rosemary Sassoon&#8217;s work, and to her 1993 book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.intellectbooks.com\/the-art-and-science-of-handwriting\">The Art and Science of Handwriting<\/a>. This book opened yet another door for us. We found her call for research into unconventional penholds resonant. Instead of using research and statistics to eliminating unconventional penholds, or to drive every one to use one &#8220;best&#8221; penhold, she advocates for deeper understanding of penholds to serve as options for folks who may find them more comforting. She has spent the second half of her life addressing writer&#8217;s cramp, with alternative penholds. This is exactly what we shall do, with respect to chopsticking. We address chopstick cramps with both alternative chopstick grips, and with chopstick aids such as <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/model-b-chopstick-buddies\/\">Chopstick Buddies<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/model-h-finger-helpers\/\">Finger Helpers<\/a>. Our response to this is captured in <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/the-art-and-science-of-chopsticking\/\">The Art and Science of Chopsticking<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"2021-05_updates_Lateral_chopstick_grips\"><\/span>2021-05 updates: Lateral chopstick grips<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It took us two years of data collection, before we discovered the largest chopstick grip family. In the first two years, we filed away videos we took of odd grips that we could not yet explain. It wasn&#8217;t until we <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/ten-thousand-ways\/\">amassed enough of these<\/a> that we finally found common patterns in them. It wasn&#8217;t until we gained enough insights about other grips, than we were then able to look at these seemingly one-off grips, and started to articulate how wildly-different variants were actually predicated by our theories such as the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/under-swing-n-crossedness\/\">three types of chopstick swings<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We are excited to present to you, the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/lateral-chopstick-grips\/\">large family of Lateral grips<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"191\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped-300x191.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - User36 - Lateral Turncoat - pos4 compressed payload pose - specimen - rotated - IMG_5003\" class=\"wp-image-7286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped-300x191.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped-1024x651.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped-768x488.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped-1536x976.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-User36-Lateral-Turncoat-pos4-compressed-payload-pose-specimen-rotated-IMG_5003-chopstick-grip-cropped.jpg 1677w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/lateral-chopstick-grips\/\">Lateral grips<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-medium is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256-300x238.jpg\" alt=\"Pen n chopsticks - Idling Thumb grip - Modelusesr - matching pen grip - IMG_8533\" class=\"wp-image-4398\" width=\"242\" height=\"193\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256-300x238.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256-1024x814.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256-768x611.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Marcosticks-Pen-n-chopsticks-Idling-Thumb-grip-Modelusesr-matching-pen-grip-variant-1-side-view-IMG_8533-e1610328314256.jpg 1107w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 242px) 100vw, 242px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Lateral penhold<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The Lateral family include such colorful members as <strong>Lateral Chick<\/strong>, <strong>Lateral Squid<\/strong>, and <strong>Lateral Gangnam Style<\/strong>, based on the the form taken by the hand, as it pries open chopsticks to extend tips apart, shown below. Despite their varied look at the Open posture, all of these Lateral grips look like the Lateral penhold, when their practitioners clutch the two chopsticks closed, in the Compression posture, as shown above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"398\" src=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip-1024x398.jpg\" alt=\"Marcosticks - Lateral Classic variants - User38 - Lateral Chick - User26 - Lateral Squid - User56 - Lateral Gangnam Style - IMG_5009 - 144237 - IMG_5255 - chopstick grip\" class=\"wp-image-7555\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip-1024x398.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip-300x117.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip-768x299.jpg 768w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip-1536x597.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Marcosticks-Lateral-Classic-variants-User38-Lateral-Chick-User26-Lateral-Squid-User56-Lateral-Gangnam-Style-IMG_5009-144237-IMG_5255-chopstick-grip.jpg 1833w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/marcosticks.org\/lateral-classic-grips\/\">Lateral Classic<\/a> variants: Lateral Chick (left), Lateral Squid (center), Lateral Gangnam Style (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>    <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>#HoldMarcosticksLikeAPen<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>#ChopstickCramp<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>* pictures courtesy of u\/lesserweevils and u\/sudakifiss.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Countless chopstick wrappers advice learners to &#8220;hold chopsticks like a pen&#8221;. 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